"tls::init -securitylevel 4 " executes with no errors as it is but opening a socket now with this configuration causes this error : "bad option "-securitylevel": and only recognises "-security_level" as the correct option.. when  the _ is used int tls::init its not recognised and says "-securitylevel" is valid. I hope my other issue with a simple http::geturl failing to open socket has nothing to do with anything else, im probally going to be using a earlier build. thx.